{"id":2470,"date":"2025-04-17T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2025-04-17T04:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/?p=2470"},"modified":"2025-04-20T06:02:27","modified_gmt":"2025-04-20T10:02:27","slug":"meditation-du-17-avril-2025","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/?p=2470","title":{"rendered":"\u200bM\u00c9DITATION DU 17 AVRIL 2025"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"postie-post\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"gmail_default\" style=\"font-size:small\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-weight:bold;text-align:justify\"> 17 AVRIL 2025<\/span><\/div>\n<p class=\"gmail-DCitation\" style=\"margin:0cm 1cm 12pt;text-align:justify;font-size:11pt;font-family:\"Century Gothic\",sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:12pt;color:black\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Vers la neuvi\u00e8me heure, J\u00e9sus s\u2019\u00e9cria d\u2019une voix<br \/>\nforte\u00a0: \u00c9li, \u00c9li, lama sabachthani\u00a0? C\u2019est-\u00e0-dire\u00a0: Mon Dieu,<br \/>\nmon Dieu, pourquoi m\u2019as-tu abandonn\u00e9\u00a0? [<a name=\"_Hlk193696312\">Matthieu<br \/>\n27.46<\/a>]<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">MON DIEU<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Dans les 4 \u00e9vangiles,<br \/>\nJ\u00e9sus s\u2019adresse<\/span><span style=\"color:black\"> <span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">toujours<br \/>\n\u00e0 Dieu en le d\u00e9signant comme son P\u00e8re. Toujours sauf une seule fois. Sur la<br \/>\ncroix dans cette parole toute particuli\u00e8re. Il semble bien que J\u00e9sus, \u00e0 ce moment<br \/>\npr\u00e9cis, a go\u00fbt\u00e9 \u00e0 la rupture relationnelle avec son P\u00e8re c\u00e9leste.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">COL\u00c8RE<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Plusieurs pensent que<br \/>\nJ\u00e9sus est all\u00e9 en enfer lorsqu\u2019il est mort, s\u2019appuyant en particulier sur<br \/>\n\u00c9ph\u00e9siens 4.9 [qui fait r\u00e9f\u00e9rence plus probablement \u00e0 l\u2019incarnation du Fils ou \u00e0<br \/>\nson ensevelissement] et sur 1 Pierre 3.19 [dont le sens est plut\u00f4t que J\u00e9sus<br \/>\navait pr\u00each\u00e9 \u00e0 travers No\u00e9 aux personnes maintenant d\u00e9c\u00e9d\u00e9es qui sont dans le<br \/>\ns\u00e9jour des morts]. <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Rien dans ces textes<br \/>\nne<\/span><span style=\"color:black\"> <span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">sugg\u00e8re<br \/>\nl\u2019id\u00e9e que J\u00e9sus soit all\u00e9 en enfer lorsqu\u2019il est mort. Il semble plut\u00f4t que ce<br \/>\nsoit sur la croix que J\u00e9sus a subi la col\u00e8re de Dieu. Voici les raisons qui<br \/>\nsugg\u00e8rent cela.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Nous avons d\u00e9j\u00e0<br \/>\nmentionn\u00e9 que c\u2019est sur la croix que J\u00e9sus d\u00e9signe Dieu non pas par P\u00e8re mais<br \/>\ncomme Dieu. Comme c\u2019est la seule fois o\u00f9 J\u00e9sus s\u2019adresse \u00e0 Dieu ainsi, et en<br \/>\nraison du moment o\u00f9 il le fait, c\u2019est tr\u00e8s significatif.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">La 2<sup>e<\/sup><br \/>\nraison se trouve dans la r\u00e9ponse de J\u00e9sus au larron graci\u00e9. J\u00e9sus lui<br \/>\nr\u00e9pondit\u00a0: En v\u00e9rit\u00e9, je te le dis, aujourd\u2019hui tu seras AVEC MOI dans le paradis.<br \/>\n[Luc 23.43]<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">En disant aujourd&#39;hui,<br \/>\nJ\u00e9sus a fix\u00e9 dans le temps la promesse au profit du<\/span><span style=\"color:black\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">malfaiteur en croix, mais il a aussi indiqu\u00e9 que<br \/>\nlui-m\u00eame serait dans le<\/span><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">paradis ce m\u00eame jour.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">La 3<sup>e<\/sup><br \/>\nraison est que ceux qui sont en enfer sont irr\u00e9m\u00e9diablement condamn\u00e9s. Nous<br \/>\nsavons que le Christ sera \u00e9ternellement pr\u00e9sent en enfer [Apocalypse 14.10]. Pour<br \/>\nl\u2019\u00e9ternit\u00e9, les gens verront l\u2019Agneau qu\u2019ils ont rejet\u00e9 et qui les a condamn\u00e9s<br \/>\n[Matthieu 10.33].<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">PSAUME 22<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Lorsque J\u00e9sus dit<br \/>\ncette parole\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0Mon Dieu, mon Dieu, pourquoi m\u2019as-tu<br \/>\nabandonn\u00e9\u00a0?\u00a0\u00bb, il cite le d\u00e9but du psaume 22. Ce psaume s\u2019ouvre avec<br \/>\ncette question et jusqu\u2019au verset 22, le psalmiste expose sa souffrance. Mais \u00e0<br \/>\npartir du verset 23, le propos se d\u00e9place vers la victoire. J\u00e9sus savait que la<br \/>\nd\u00e9livrance allait suivre, sinon il n\u2019aurait jamais fait cette promesse d\u2019\u00eatre<br \/>\navec le larron graci\u00e9 le m\u00eame<\/span><span style=\"color:black\"><br \/>\n<span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">jour.<\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Fr\u00e8res et s\u0153urs. Un<br \/>\njour, nous allons tous nous retrouver dans le paradis avec le Seigneur, soit \u00e0<br \/>\nnotre mort, soit lorsque le Seigneur reviendra. Et de toutes les personnes<br \/>\npr\u00e9sentes, une seule aura connu ce qu\u2019est la col\u00e8re de Dieu. Et c\u2019est son Fils.<br \/>\nToutes les autres personnes pourront dire\u00a0: \u00ab\u00a0J\u2019ai entendu parler de<br \/>\nla col\u00e8re de Dieu, mais je ne sais pas trop c\u2019est quoi. Je la m\u00e9ritais, mais la<br \/>\ncol\u00e8re de Dieu que je m\u00e9ritais, J\u00e9sus l\u2019a subie \u00e0 ma place\u00a0\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Et pour l\u2019\u00e9ternit\u00e9,<br \/>\nnous louerons le Seigneur pour ce qu\u2019il a subi et port\u00e9 \u00e0 notre place \u00e0 la<br \/>\ncroix.<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">Seigneur, nous ne r\u00e9alisons<br \/>\npas vraiment ce que J\u00e9sus a subi \u00e0 notre place. Mais nous sommes tellement<br \/>\nreconnaissants de ne pas conna\u00eetre cette souffrance indicible. Merci Seigneur<br \/>\nJ\u00e9sus pour tout ce que tu as subi. Donne en retour, \u00e0 mes fr\u00e8res et s\u0153urs comme<br \/>\n\u00e0 moi, de vivre dans une gratitude d\u00e9bordante et de nous consacrer \u00e0 toi de<br \/>\nplus en plus. Amen !<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Daniel Durand, <i>pasteur de l\u2019\u00c9glise r\u00e9form\u00e9e baptiste de Drummondville<\/i><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><i><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Cha\u00eene YouTube :<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCrO25AbIgFO-RFzdpicwQGA\" style=\"color:blue\">https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/channel\/UCrO25AbIgFO-RFzdpicwQGA<\/a><span style=\"color:black\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Site internet : <\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/\" style=\"color:blue\">https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/<\/a><span style=\"color:black\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Page Facebook :<\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ERBDRVILLE\" style=\"color:blue\">https:\/\/www.facebook.com\/ERBDRVILLE<\/a><span class=\"gmail-MsoHyperlink\" style=\"color:blue;text-decoration-line:underline\"><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"gmail-Dprg\" style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\"><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial\"><\/span><\/span><\/p>\n<p class=\"MsoNormal\" align=\"left\" style=\"text-indent:0cm;line-height:normal;margin:0cm;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"font-size:10pt;font-family:\"Times New Roman\",serif\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><br clear=\"all\"><\/div>\n<div>\n<div dir=\"ltr\" class=\"gmail_signature\" data-smartmail=\"gmail_signature\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div><\/div>\n<p>Daniel Durand, pasteur<\/p>\n<div>\u00c9glise r\u00e9form\u00e9e baptiste de Drummondville<\/p>\n<div><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>17 AVRIL 2025 \u00a0 Vers la neuvi\u00e8me heure, J\u00e9sus s\u2019\u00e9cria d\u2019une voix forte\u00a0: \u00c9li, \u00c9li, lama sabachthani\u00a0? C\u2019est-\u00e0-dire\u00a0: Mon Dieu, mon Dieu, pourquoi m\u2019as-tu abandonn\u00e9\u00a0? [Matthieu 27.46] MON DIEU \u00a0 Dans les 4 \u00e9vangiles, J\u00e9sus s\u2019adresse toujours \u00e0 Dieu en le d\u00e9signant comme son P\u00e8re. Toujours sauf une seule fois. Sur la croix dans cette&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_kad_post_transparent":"","_kad_post_title":"","_kad_post_layout":"","_kad_post_sidebar_id":"","_kad_post_content_style":"","_kad_post_vertical_padding":"","_kad_post_feature":"","_kad_post_feature_position":"","_kad_post_header":false,"_kad_post_footer":false,"_kad_post_classname":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2470","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-meditations"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2470","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=2470"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2470\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=2470"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=2470"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=2470"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}