{"id":2236,"date":"2024-11-21T00:00:00","date_gmt":"2024-11-21T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/?p=2236"},"modified":"2024-11-21T07:41:15","modified_gmt":"2024-11-21T12:41:15","slug":"meditation-du-21-novembre-2024","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.erbdrville.com\/?p=2236","title":{"rendered":"\u200bM\u00c9DITATION DU 21 NOVEMBRE 2024"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"postie-post\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div dir=\"ltr\">\n<div>\n<div class=\"gmail_default\" style=\"font-size:small\"><span style=\"font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:12pt;font-weight:bold;text-align:justify\"> 21 NOVEMBRE 2024<\/span><\/div>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Lecture : Marc 16.9-20<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">La canonicit\u00e9 de ces versets est<br \/>\ndiscut\u00e9e parmi les th\u00e9ologiens et plusieurs versions ont mis cette section<br \/>\nentre crochets ou parenth\u00e8ses.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Voici les diff\u00e9rentes opinions sur la<br \/>\nsituation.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">1.- Marc aurait termin\u00e9 son \u00e9vangile au<br \/>\nverset 8. Les versets 9 \u00e0 20 ne seraient pas inspir\u00e9s.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">2.- Marc aurait termin\u00e9 son \u00e9vangile au<br \/>\nverset 8 et un autre aurait compl\u00e9t\u00e9 cet \u00e9vangile, les deux auteurs ayant \u00e9t\u00e9<br \/>\ninspir\u00e9s. Tous les versets seraient canoniques.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">3.- Marc a \u00e9crit jusqu\u2019au verset 20 et<br \/>\ntous les versets sont canoniques.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">De plus, les manuscrits nous montrent<br \/>\nqu\u2019il y a quatre finales diff\u00e9rentes qui ont circul\u00e9, dont celle qui termine au<br \/>\nverset 8. Ce n\u2019est pas le but dans le cadre d\u2019une m\u00e9ditation de discuter de ces<br \/>\npoints.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Il y a cependant le danger de rejeter<br \/>\nles versets 9 \u00e0 20 sur la seule base que nous n\u2019aimons pas ce qu\u2019ils disent ou,<br \/>\n\u00e0 l\u2019inverse, de les reconna\u00eetre parce qu\u2019ils vont dans le sens de ce que l\u2019on<br \/>\ncroit.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">De plus, il m\u2019appara\u00eet sage de ne pas<br \/>\nfonder de doctrines ni de pratiques sur ces versets pour la raison suivante.<br \/>\nM\u00eame si l\u2019on \u00e9tudie la question et que nous adh\u00e9rions \u00e0 la canonicit\u00e9 de ces<br \/>\nversets, nous ne pourrions appuyer l\u2019id\u00e9e que les propos de J\u00e9sus concernaient<br \/>\ntous les chr\u00e9tiens.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Ces versets ne peuvent m\u00eame pas appuyer<br \/>\nl\u2019id\u00e9e que tous les croyants puissent faire des miracles [cf. Marc 16.17-18].<br \/>\nLa raison est que ceux qui auront cru [v. 17] sont les ap\u00f4tres qui ne croyaient<br \/>\npas jusque-l\u00e0 [cf. versets 11, 13, 14]. Les ap\u00f4tres \u00e9taient incr\u00e9dules et ce<br \/>\nsont eux qui \u00e9taient vis\u00e9e. Les miracles demeurent les signes qui distinguaient<br \/>\nles ap\u00f4tres des autres chr\u00e9tiens [2 Corinthiens 12.12].<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Bien qu\u2019il y ait des arguments en<br \/>\nfaveur de la canonicit\u00e9 de cette finale de Marc, il me semble que le poids des<br \/>\narguments contre l\u2019authenticit\u00e9 de ces versets l\u2019emporte.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Alfred Kuen affirme que \u00ab\u00a0ces<br \/>\nversets ne se trouvent pas dans la plupart des manuscrits les plus anciens et<br \/>\nles plus fiables\u00a0\u00bb [Encyclop\u00e9die des difficult\u00e9s bibliques]. Plus loin,<br \/>\ntoujours en parlant de ces versets, il ajoute que \u00ab\u00a0les manuscrits qui les<br \/>\nincluent contiennent des notes des scribes pr\u00e9cisant qu\u2019ils sont absents des<br \/>\nanciennes copies grecques et que, dans d\u2019autres copies, ils sont pourvus de<br \/>\nmarques indiquant leur caract\u00e8re suspect\u00a0\u00bb.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">Fr\u00e8res et s\u0153urs, le myst\u00e8re qui entoure<br \/>\nces versets ne devrait pas \u00e9branler notre confiance dans la Parole de Dieu. Le<br \/>\nt\u00e9moignage de l\u2019ensemble des \u00c9critures est trop fort.<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"margin:0cm;text-align:justify;text-indent:1cm;line-height:200%;font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif\"><span style=\"color:black\">P\u00e8re c\u00e9leste, merci pour ces<br \/>\nth\u00e9ologiens, ces docteurs bibliques qui creusent ce genre de question.<br \/>\nDonne-nous d\u2019accepter que des questions demeurent et que notre intelligence ne<br \/>\ntrouve pas toujours satisfaction. Garde-nous humbles et pers\u00e9v\u00e9rants. 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